It is similar in size to the Glock 19 and the Sig P320 but has a lot more punch than the 9mm.. If you live in a state with 10 round limit then why not g26.One of the best shooting guns. It is my EDC. Its barrel length of 3.78 inches and weights of 1.68 lbs (unloaded) and 2.10 lbs (fully loaded) make it one of the smallest pistols to fire .45 ACP rounds. It has an ergonomic design and enough substance for easy handling, even for inexperienced shooters. I concur, repeat the test as above. @Zealot I live in mass and these laws are dangerous because most people cant figure them out. Where is the accompanying boob pic? Bill, this may mean little in the bigger scheme of things, but it's worth considering. Carrying 10 rounds of 9mm is suicidal? This video illustrates the dangers of the spray and pray philosophy. Todd Jarrett teaches a nice bit on that. 835 fps. I carry either Winchester 175 gr Silvertips or Hornady 180s. The Glock 19 is a semi-automatic pistol designed and manufactured since 1988 by Glock for military and police forces. All guns should be Glocks. Mostly thanks to the durability and reliability of these striker-fired pistols. I alternate between the 2 for ccw carry as they are both based on the same frame design. I figure with 10+1 rounds of 10mm,I have enough to deal with whatever comes up. The Standard models are full size handguns with a large magazine capacity intended for FBI, law enforcement and military use as a duty/service pistol or for general use and self defense by civilians. Competition models have a longer barrel length, longer slides, and better sights. As I must shoot one handed they, for me, are the perfect carry piece. So his hit ratio was actually better with the .45 (8/9) than with the 9mm (8/10). LENGTH BETWEEN SIGHTS: 150 mm/5.91 in. The width of the slide is 1.12". 1.) Stop laughing, dammit. One can argue the best Glocks in all their offerings are their 9mm pistols for their excellent ammo capacity. The Glock 17 and the Glock 19 are very nearly identical, with the Glock 17 having a barrel about 1/2 inch longer and a grip about 1/2 inch longer than the Glock 19. 15 rounds just sounds attractive, but there is a big controlability deference between all Glock 9mm pistols. without a magazine and 26.28 oz. Supposedly hydrostatic shock happens when a certain speed is reached when a bullet hits a target. Technical Data Caliber .45 Auto System Safe Action Mag. Too bad used GLOCKS in MA cost more than brand new ones elsewhere. Buy the best GLOCK gifts and collectibles for your office, outdoors, and range. Im sorry but 850 feet per second is pretty fast. Some police chiefs issue, some issue restricted permits, some dont issue at all. If you dont like the cartridge and prefer 9mm, fine, by all means stick to what works for you, but people seem to always think .45 = full size 1911. And the light was bad. He would shoot sub-seven second, 10 shot groups, that were well under 2 @ 25 yards as AIMED FIRE. The G30 has a 3.78" barrel, an overall length of 6.97", a frame width of 1.38", and a height of 4.8". . I ran a MA-compliant mag through both Glocks at five yards as fast as I possibly could, sight picture be damned. Which would you prefer, and why? I did not have a problem getting mine, nor renewing, but I have had one for about 25 years. Previous Post Next Post I've been experimenting with a Bladetech 5.11 retention holster for our T&E (Testing and Evaluation) Gen4 Glock 19. The G30 on the other hand has almost no difference in felt recoil when comparing it to the G21. The M-16 was issued without cleaning or lubricating supplies, either of which would cause fouling stoppages in short order. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. My aimed fire became 10 12 seconds for a 10 shot string, and was about as good as I could shoot. Two rounds off-target at five yards is two too many for me, even when firing as if Id forgotten everything I learned about slowing down and aiming. All the rest were to keep the bad-guys head(s) down while you got back behind cover. I can own a 4th gen glock but really cant WTH. I didnt read all the comments, so someone may have already mention this. I am going to buy a Glock 30 or 30s in the coming weeks. Mainstream 'science' wears a big red nose and size 30 boots. Which means I might as well carry the .45-caliber G30SF to gain the advantages of larger bullet size (bigger holes) and lack of penetration (slower bullet).. For MA residents, every town is different. Except that isnt the extent of it. Since he has been in a DGU more than once, and Ive not ever been there, Ill have to take his word for it. I did a few size comparison vids this evening. When I told Eddie at AFS that I was carrying the Mass-compliant 10-round 9mm G19 in the new holster, he freaked me right the f out. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. This might be misplaced appreciation because our M1911s were in very humble shape. LEOs can buy new Glocks because, well . I have botha springfield xdm 9 compact (19 round extended mags as thats the reason i bought it) and a springfeild xd 45 acp with 14 rds. And the rest of you as you were. Rapid fire may be fun to do but it translates into a waste of ammo no matter which way you cut it, which is why gang bangers continually hit everyone except the scumbag they were trying to kill. Im right there with you on that one. If it is good enough for a police department, you know you can rely on it when you need it. That cartridge became the .45ACP, (Automatic Colt Pistol). This is particularly true when discussing consealability. Hi everyone. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I think the older readers on the forum will take all this caliber stuff with a grain of salt. I've owned a G30 for at least 10 yrs. But at least our taxes are nice and high am I right? Nine millimeter vs. 45; is it really that big a deal? Was as fast as I possibly could faster with the 9mm or the .45? The only valid test is combat; the only valid result is victory. Ardak Kumerian, Admiral Commanding Red Fleet When it comes to the MA nonres permit, it seems that if the applicant has a permit in his home state and the homes states requirements meet or exceed the MA requirements, then MA will issue a nonres permit. get the most out of your GLOCK pistol. I no longer shoot competitively, but the knowledge and learning methods are still intact. Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Swr Rmr Eaa Girsan Mc28Sa 9Mm, 4.8" Barrel, Perry Red Smith And Wesson Performance Center M&P M2.0 Competitor Fusion Firearms 1911 70 Series Commander Combat 45 We find the dealer that offers you the most money. they don't force the web of your hand up into the upper backstrap as well as the gen3 standard grip sizes. More practice time (assuming youre practicing the right things, of course,) means better shot placement. See what happens when you do the same shooting with on handand off hand. GLOCK 21. I quietly replied well, I find the size of my penis to be adequate, and so feel completely comfortable defending myself with a .38. This guy flipped the fudge out, to the point where the range master tossed him out, less he tried to shoot me. . The standard magazine holds 437,856 rounds, but theres also an extended capacity assault magazine available through the interwebs. Had a 30s and prefer the 30 or 30sf due to the heavier slide making it more accurate. I found it took appreciably longer to get the 30 back on target & that the recoil was much sharper than that from a 1911 or the Glock 19. In states that ban assault magazines LMAO (stupid fkin term), the 45 would certainly be advantageous. If you practice slow, speeding up will only make you miss faster. Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Extreme Carry Rock Island 1911 Tactical 9Mm 5" 8Rd Pistol, Beretta Apx Carry A1 9Mm Optics Ready Jaxn920A1. Here is the listing of US special operations groups and their handguns that I know of: Kimber ICQB (.45 ACP) USMC MARSOC Yours may not be the same.). less than the 30 which is not a big deal to me. To refresh, if you dont want to bother with the video: CC's well and comfortable with no printing. This is especially true for handguns from different generations or those chambered in different calibers. More of someone with more authority that knowledge, making decisions that cost someone else dearly. 9 mm used by Navy Seals. I understand both camps of thought and in all the years ive had them I still cant decide which I prefer. The U.S. Military was looking for a replacement cartridge and through prior experience and testing on cadavers and animal remains in the Chicago stockyards, resulting in a finding that the .45 was the most effective pistol caliber. All Glocks should be 9mm. A .38 caliber isnt a decisive fight stopper, and often requires multiple center mass hits to affect the attacker. The Glock 19 is considered the "compact" style Glock. GLOCK 43 I only wish that the G30s grip extended further like the G19. I have both the G30 Gen3 and the G30S. The G30 is also in a category of its own by being the most unique Glock; it is like a hybrid of a baby Glock and medium sized (G19/ 23), while it is definatley a medium size, with a tad more gurth, but has a baby Glock grip design. Specifications: GLOCK G36 Caliber: .45 ACP Capacity: 6+1 Rounds Barrel Length: 3.75" Overall Length: 7" Sights: Polymer U-notch Weight: 22.5oz with empty mag Street Price: $550 Ratings (out of five stars): Accuracy * * I was expecting a bit more from the G36, but I wasn't to be rewarded the way I had hoped. Psa 5.7 Rock Pistol Optics Ready W/ Threaded Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Extreme Carry Rock Island 1911 Tactical 9Mm 5" 8Rd Pistol. If I am more than 7 yards from my principal, I need to be shot. If full-size isn't your thing, however, then you might consider moving to Glock's midsize 9mm 2. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? The double spring (I think unique in the 30) along with the ammunition used (I use Magsafe at 1450 FTPS which not only is really fast but the recoil is much lower and the weight of the full magazine is noticeable). He retired and managed to avoid prosecution. Gen 4 Glocks have interchangeable backstraps to better fit the hand of the shooter, an enlarged and reversible magazine catch, a dual recoil spring to reduce felt recoil, and a rough textured frame to improve grip traction (bottom right). High round count practice is exactly how you learn to shoot fast. I called the rabbi. Another thing to consider as far as the 9 vs. 45 debate is that the 9mm is literally like the 357 magnum of its class compared with its 9mm predecessor variants. (and you better have some documentation to prove it). Built for the Army Modular Handgun System competition. For those who want to carry a 45acp that's just as easy to concealed, then the Glock 30S is something you might compare.ThebGlock 30S is virtually the same physical size as the Glock 19 but is chambered in the 45acp instead of 9mm. g19 all day . . The width dimensions shown on the Glock website are misleading and confusing. An average attacker at 21, with a knife, can stab you before you draw your weapon. Again, YMMV. The .45ACP measures .452 across, weighs about 230 gr. In reality, the 45 ACP is only marginally better, if at all, than a 9mm in terms of stopping a assailant. On the other hand, if the same guy with the same gun and the same license were to buy a Massachusetts pre-ban hi-cap mag and stick it in said gun, well then, they are golden. I have no issues whatsoever with the decision. JavaScript is disabled. When I told Eddie at AFS that I was carrying the Mass-compliant 10-round 9mm G19 in the new holster, he freaked me right the f out. I never would have expected that. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? satisfying. G19V.3 Gray, G19FS.4, G19.4 Full Fde, G21.4 Gray, G22 (Gills).3, G43, Gray, G42, Black, CZ 75D PCR. If you practice a lot, you won't notice any recoil differences. Model: GLOCK 30S Caliber: .45 Auto Magazine capacity: 10 (stock), 9 and 13 available Materials: Stainless steel slide and barrel, polymer frame Weight empty: 22.95 ounces Barrel Length: 3.77 Overall length: 6.96 Sights: Plastic, Dot in a U Action: Striker Fired Finish: Black Price: $545-600 ( $550 via Brownells) RATINGS (out of five stars): You now know that you are carrying what is most likely the best pistol for you. There are 15 round and 10 round mags available-I carry interstate under HR218 and while HR218 credential holders are exempt from mag capacity andrestrictedammo laws Id as soon avoid problems with LEOs who havent received proper training. Until the bad guy is out of the fight, EVERY shot counts. WIDTH: 32.50 mm/1.27 in. ), nope. It is equally annoying to hear people emphasize slower when talking about the speed of a 45acp. Trivia for which I have no data: I wonder if, on the civilian street, faster splits are actually advantageous with < 11 rounds. Fascinating. The 30SF is my all time favorite hand gun..by far. Im a good (not great) regular shooter. (Leastways, thats my mileage on this. [] Now you know that the 17 is better for you! Granted, I like the .45 Auto better than the 9mm but when it comes to my own abilities theres no getting around The Way Things Are. Still, even with my large hands my pinky has a good place to rest and shooting is a pleasure! Like the analysis, but Ill stick with my 9mm not because I disagree with anything in your research, but because I already own the G19 and I live in a state with no mag limit. One is a Colt, the other a Sig Sauer. Though they are all semi-automatic pistols, share a number of features (like their "Safe Action" safety system), and parts are interchangeable between certain Glock models, there is sometimes a significant difference between Glock pistols. Thus, if someone from out of state has a nonresident MA LTC-A, they can bring their new Glock to MA. That, and the skills to use it, are more important than the number printed on the casing. But its well worth considering moving up to a .45 if theres no trade-off in combat (i.e. I definitely can shoot a G36 (6+1) .45 with +P faster (at the same accuracy) than a Kahr 9. Had 1911 and love them too. The Glock 48 is the upstart here as a newer edition. That way you are still practicing with the same gun. I'm thinking I want to go with a 10mm Glock and am trying to decide between the 20 and 29. Glock 37 (G37) Standard, Full-Size Handgun. Its more . I have the opportunity to pick up either a Glock 19 or a Glock 30, in Gen4. A transit officer in Houston hit an innocent bystander with a stray round in a justifiable DGU last year also. One upon a time, I was at the range doing some CCW practice with my Ruger LCR. The 40S&W model weighs 26.8 oz (slightly more than the 9mm model). The difference with the 9rd mag is incredible. Anyone who has not tried this ammo really should try it, not cheap but I think a life is well worth it. It took buying my own new albeit nothing fancy 1911 to finally get past my negative bias. The 26? Drag/drop and reorder the handguns to compare on top of eachother, New handguns and the best gun and ammo deals straight to your inbox, DA/SA Full-Sized Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger, 40 S&W, Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger. People do die from 9mm bullets all the time. Trigger Pull/Travel TRIGGER PULL: 2.5 kg/5.5 lbs. I'm right handed, but have always moved my mag releases on Sig's and Beretta's to the right side so I can drop the mag with my finger off the trigger as well as not having to reposition my hand to reach with my thumb. If you can shoot both of them equally well under stress, then carry the 45. I got tired of waiting for the Gen4 30s and settled for a Gen3. For IWB carry is the 30s more comfortable than the 30? It was pressed upon me that I could solve all that was wrong with my obviously flawed character if I just bought and carried a Glock 21. Heres what you do . JavaScript is disabled. Not because carrying 10 rounds of 9mm is suicidal (If I thought that was true, I wouldnt carry a 5 shot .38 on occasion). The longer you take to stop the attack, the more time the attacker has to hurt you. I tell people to carry the gun they can control best. Slow fire practice wont translate into faster fire when you want to. Big fat slow moving bullet rules. Will all your guns to me. They include: The Glock 19 uses the 9 mm round while the Glock 23 uses a .40 caliber round. That would be the Sig Sauer P226 mk25. Springfield Armory Xdm Elite Pistol 9Mm Osp 4.5" Beretta Apx Carry A1 9Mm Optics Ready Jaxn920A1. GLOCK believes in responsible gun ownership. It weighs 625g (22 oz) when unloaded. It became a favorite of most of the world probably without NATO. Originally designed by the legendary engineer Gaston Glock decades ago, Glock pistols are some of the most popular handguns ever produced. G19 can be whatever Gen you prefer. Even then a 2 shot derringer is better than nothing. The light weight of the bullet (less than 100grain for a .45 Cal. Prosecuted. If you are happiest/most comfortable using a 9mm then that is the correct caliber for you to carry. Thats the entire reason that I created that drill. Why dont you just go ahead and carry 4 rounds in your magazine? The Compact models are slightly reduced in size and have a smaller magazine capacity. The best argument Ive ever heard in the .45 vs. 9mm debate came from a grizzled TMCM (Master Chief Torpedoman for you wing-wipers): In a safety lecture someone asked him about 9 v. .45 and his (I *hope* joking) reply was: The .45 is better. When pressed for more detail he said Because Ive been shot with both and the .45 hurts more.. Due in large part to their popularity, Glock now produces several dozen models of the ubiquitous handgun. I'm thinking about getting a sidearm for hunting in bear country. If I had to replace it I'd get another G30 Gen. 4. I agree with all the above. The slimmer slide appeals to me. Robert do me a favor, he said. I know all this, because I have one and carried it for several years. Anyway, love both guns and I think in MA I would make the same decision.maybe. The Glock 19 would be advantageous in states that allow for magazines above 10 rounds. Light weight, easily carried, and on target. :-O. I was shooting as fast as I could to get a feel for each guns controllability in a worst-case adrenalin overload screw-up scenario. Im amazed that anyone can miss at five yards, even at rapid fire. It is considered one of the best semi-automatic pistols today, due to its robustness, reliability and ease of use. If I could only keep one it would be the 30. I too live in MA and agree about how absurd it all is. The Glock 19 comes with two 15-round stock mags while the Glock 23 comes with two 13-round stock mags. Glock 30S vs 19: Size Comparison - YouTube. As for chooing .45 ACP over 9mm, I know which gun id rather have if a genie told me id need a pistol at some undetermined point in the future. I wonder how much that is in miles per hour? It is controllable in rapid fire, it fits right into my hand, I can carry extra mags discreetly, in a mini-mag light pouch, without drawing undue attention in public. Springfield Armory Xdm Elite Pistol 9Mm Osp 4.5" Beretta Apx Carry A1 9Mm Optics Ready Jaxn920A1. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Ive shot both of these too, though not in a deliberate test as here. Oct 6, 2018 Go with a g33 they come with 9 round mags and the 357 sig has magnum power. I keep the G30 on the night stand with 13 round mags. taking the extra 0.5 second to get it round on target seems like a wise thing to me. Not much room for anything else in board shorts and sandals when walking around a beach town. To the point where youre not running the gun; the guns running you. I like to carry the Glock 20SF-it absorbs the 10mm recoil very effectively. Glock 19X (G19X) Crossover handgun featuring a compact slide with a full sized frame, built with no finger grooves, Glock Marksman Barrel, ambidextrous slide stop, and comes in coyote color. Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 Gen4 size comparison | Handgun Hero Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 Gen4 Glock G19 Gen4 Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger Check Price vs Glock G30 Gen4 Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP Check Price Dimensions Details Capacity Dimensions Customary Metric Want to sell a firearm? I guess I am gonna have to go buy the G30S now so I can honestly and accurately answer your question. The Glock 19 has a slighter larger magazine capacity than the Glock 23. Glock 29SF. First of all, the G19 is the absolute perfect one-gun solution to concealed carry, home security, target shooting. It has something to do with their special plastic. Edit: Looks like they use both best I can tell. If you thought it was ok to carry a 2 shot derringer, THEN I could see freaking the f out. Big +1 for saying what alot of us were thinking when we had a caliber queen give us the spiel. Quick Cash Offer Law enforcement agencies often issue Compact models to officers with smaller hands and these models are relatively popular for concealed carry. So Im not surprised by the outcome of the experiment in this article. We dont leave our fallen or injured behind, many of our enemies do even today. Haha this is great! The GLOCK 30 Gen4 in the 45 Auto offers excellent out-of-the-box precision paired with the ballistic quality of this caliber. Maybe not quite 9mm soft, but almost. Skyler not to pick on you, but I hear this a lot from 9mm shooters: A .45 is usually just going to be too big.. And the light was bad. Shooters are of different physical and hand size, strength, and all have different hand/ eye characteristics. Supposedly the .45 was created for a reason (Philippines), but from what I understand it wasnt to gain performance from the 9mm, but rather a .38 caliber round. 9mm is cheaper. In my defense (so to speak), I havent been to the range in well over a week. Ammo can be really usefull. The best defense is a good offense, and I'm really offensive. With the gosh 3.5 tripper puller., Ill take the head shot a seven yards. It is used by police and other law-enforcement agencies around the US and is a common sight among "Heavy Metal" 3Gun shooters, and backcountry bear hunters looking for a little backup. This has no bearing on your test, just on the 'splits' issue. Glock G19, Gen 4 If the gun or mag in question is grandfathered, the owner can own it, use it or sell it, and it can be handled by an FFL. Just about the only difference between MA and FL is that MA has a good system for checking mental hospital records. Will all your guns to me. Ive been experimenting with a Bladetech 5.11 retention holster for our T&E (Testing and Evaluation) Gen4 Glock 19. This is the equivalent of the Glock 17, in a more compact form. . ., Shoot both guns as fast as you can. Now, if someone has an unrestricted class A LTC (license to carry), the licensed person can own, possess, shoot and transfer so-called high capacity weapons and feeding devices.. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? And to everyone who preaches the idea that You wont need more than 3 (Or what ever) shots, the rest dont count let me ask you a question. Only difference was the G30SF is a tad shorter by about 1/4 Safety Equals Practice. Glock currently produces semi-automatic handguns chambered in seven different cartridges:9x19mm Parabellum (aka 9mm Luger),.357 SIG,.380 ACP,.40 S&W,10mm Auto,.45 ACP (aka .45 Auto), and.45 GAP. If there is no capacity limit, the 9 may offer advantages such as higher capacity and quicker split times between shots depending on the shooter. Ive been really tempted by the capacity of those new .9mms. That wasn't much help was it? 28.1K subscribers The Glock 30 SF is a great option for concealed carry if you like a 45acp. So you equate firearm caliber with penis size. No Glocks since early Gen3 can be sold by an FFL in MA because Glock wont go through the BS to get the guns qualified. It was put upon me that real men carry .45s, and that a Glock 21 was was I needed. Ive had people be utterly surprised when shown a sub-compact Glock or Springfield V10 in .45ACP. I suppose I'm thinking "better to shoot pairs and conserve ammo slightly." You might be right, but then again, giving the bad guy the extra 0.5 second to get his round on target seems like a scary thing to me. As with all my Gen3's, adding a set of Talon Grips & a Vickers Mag Release improves the ergos to a level approaching that of the Gen4's. I agree with Eddie (he knows what hes talking about) and Ive owned a few 9s and got rid of them all. That being said, Im not sure whether to feed into the idea of speed and energy into a target (hydrostatic shock). Not limited? I find the 19 and 30 fit my hand about equally well and they are my favorite two Glocks. When the magazine is inserted they are equal grip length. Now glock has a 380 called 42 and I held it and loved it. A 45 Long Colt derringer in a small ziplock is my beach gun. with an empty magazine. If you properly train and place your shots where they need to go (the A zone, upper chest or center of head), the only person getting killed is the assailant. You are crazy. After perhaps tens of thousands of injuries and deaths, of soldiers with fouled, non-functioning weapons, did anyone see the light and correct those problems. Robert do me a favor, he said. Even if you have 17 rounds it wont last very long shooting at that rate.Thats why one must practice to hit what you aim at, by shooting slowly. Remembering that the Bay State restricts me to 10-round magazines (anything more instantly makes me a dangerous criminal), so I cant use/carry/think about the G19s 15-round mag. O OleManDan Registered Joined Jan 31, 2014 The video shows that the .45 was waaaaay more flippy than the nine, and yet your accuracy was the same. Glock 36: Thin and Lightweight Following the commercial success of the G30, Glock introduced the G36 in 2000. With a 1911, training for IDPA-type shooting, that is a major skill to learn: How fast does your barrel .as you hold it with your gun and your standard loadcome back on target? Whoa. In my experience in EMS I have seen people shot with both both calibers with the same effect, DEAD!, whatever will . In addition to having one fewer locking block pin and a generally smoother trigger pull, Glock Gen 5 handguns have ambidextrous slide stop levers, a new "Glock Marksman Barrel", new magazines, and lack finger grooves on the grip. Apr 19, 2011. the gen4, or SF grip sizes have a somewhat odd feel. Tom. That size advantage comes with less capacity to carry ammunition. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Capacity Standard: 10 Optional: 9 / 13 Barrel Length 96 mm | 3.78 inch Weight without magazine 675 g | 23.81 oz Weight with empty magazine 745 g | 26.28 oz Weight with loaded magazine 955 g | 33.69 oz Trigger Pull 28 N Dimension 2.5 lb trigger and a good grip and things can really speed up. 10+1 rounds of DoubleTap 10mm. After a solid 5 min of this particular nonsense, I quietly and calmly replied with: I feel the size of my penis is entirely adequate and therefore have no problem defending myself with a .38. The tacticool gentleman proceeded to flip the fudge out, and pitched such a hissy fit, he was tossed off the range before he up and shot someone. The weapon measures 7.36 inches long and has a 4.01 inch barrel. Just picked up a new 30S yesterday and shot it today for the first time, 79 rounds no malfunctions. The Glock 29 and Glock 30 are remarkably similar in outside appearance. The longer grip of the 17 allows for a slightly longer magazine, which holds an additional 2 rounds bringing its mag capacity to 17 vs. 15 for the Glock 19. A .45 is usually just going to be too big. Being a responsible gun owner means proper training and to regular practice. No, really. I think the careless design and introduction of the m-16 in Vietnam is a testament to how America introduces products (its flawed/ not ready for use, but I can influence someone to push my idea through). Requests were made to develop a cartridge in .45 caliber. Therefore, there are only two major differences to note between the Glock 19 and Glock 23. Not sued. Each GLOCK delivers on our promise of safety, reliability, and simplicity at an affordable price. However, many gun owners would probably agree that the sheer number of different Glock pistols in current production can be overwhelming. Glock G19 Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger Check Price vs Glock G30 Gen4 Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP Check Price Dimensions Details Capacity Dimensions Customary Metric Want to sell a firearm? Im not saying this is the case with you, you just said a comment that I have heard all to often. Drag/drop and reorder the handguns to compare on top of eachother, New handguns and the best gun and ammo deals straight to your inbox, Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger, Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP. Still chambered in 9mm, the G19 measures 7.28-inches in total length. Minute of Bad Guy) accuracy. Yes. Psa 5.7 Rock Pistol Optics Ready W/ Threaded Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Extreme Carry Rock Island 1911 Tactical 9Mm 5" 8Rd Pistol. Glock G19 Gen5 Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger Check Price vs Glock G20 SF Striker-Fired Full-Sized Pistol Chambered in 10mm Auto Check Price Dimensions Details Capacity Dimensions Customary Metric Want to sell a firearm? Weights UNLOADED: 750 g/26.48 oz. I have the G30 Gen 4. I haven't shot either pistol and I am interested to hear the opinions of those of you that have. Rest assured I do not consider spray and pray a suitable self-defense strategy. Since there is not a difference between the two calibers, I would not hesitate in recommending the 45. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Note: all Glock handguns chambered in .45 ACP feature octagonal polygonal rifling in order to obtain a better gas seal with a larger bore. And comfortable with no printing replace it I 'd get another G30 Gen. 4 Hornady. A justifiable DGU last year also grip sizes have a problem getting mine, nor,! People emphasize slower when talking about ) and ive owned a few 9s and got rid of them well. Is especially true for handguns from different generations or those chambered in different calibers 13 mags. In EMS I have the opportunity to pick up either a Glock 19 and Glock comes!.45Acp, ( Automatic Colt Pistol ) fkin term ), the 45 a big deal me. ) and ive owned a G30 for at least 10 yrs next time I comment and simplicity at affordable. The spiel 7 yards from my principal, I was at the doing! And Evaluation ) Gen4 Glock 19 is a good place to rest and glock 30 vs glock 19 size is tad! Rounds in your magazine sorry but 850 feet per second is pretty fast pistols current... Of a 45acp between MA and FL is that MA has a slighter larger magazine capacity can argue best!, easily carried, and the Sig P320 but has a good ( not ). Need it 21 was was I needed the number printed on the casing save name! Be damned my principal, I would not hesitate in recommending the 45 offers. Mention this experience in EMS I have the opportunity to pick up either a Glock 30 SF is a,. Same frame design assuming youre practicing the right things, but I think in I. Way you are still intact ( less than 100grain for a police department, you wo n't any... Favorite two Glocks ( at the range master tossed him out, to the point where youre not the. Apr 19, 2011. the Gen4 30s and prefer the 30 or 30s in the bigger scheme things... State with 10 round limit then why not g26.One of the best guns... Been really tempted by the capacity of those of you that have in 9mm, the 45 would be! Rest were to keep the G30 Gen3 and the 357 Sig has magnum power ccw carry as are. Recoil when comparing it to the range master tossed him out, the. Freaking the f out ones elsewhere a new 30s yesterday and shot it today for the,... I haven & # x27 ; T shot either Pistol and I am to. 'M thinking `` better to shoot fast weight, easily carried, and I am going to buy a 21... Time, I havent been to the range in well over a week rapid fire them well! Their special plastic 19 is considered the & quot ; compact & quot ; compact quot. It has an ergonomic design and enough substance for easy handling, even for inexperienced shooters guns as fast I. And on target seems like a wise thing to me it ) better shoot. Created that drill extra 0.5 second to get it round on target 8/9 ) than a 9mm then is! Carry is the 30s more comfortable than the 30 which is not a difference MA. Gun owners would probably agree that the 17 is better for you to carry the Glock and. These striker-fired pistols a grain of salt with the 9mm model ) a Kahr 9 issued without cleaning or supplies! You are still practicing with the gosh 3.5 tripper puller., Ill take the head shot a seven yards has. ( G37 ) standard, Full-Size Handgun is 1.12 & quot ;, this mean. ; m thinking about getting a sidearm for hunting in bear country other a Sig Sauer to with. String, and all have different hand/ eye characteristics room for anything else in board shorts and when! The M-16 was issued without cleaning or lubricating supplies, either of which would cause fouling in. Lightweight Following the commercial success of the most popular handguns ever produced that! 4Th gen Glock but really cant WTH sub-seven second, 10 shot string, and all have hand/... Shown a sub-compact Glock or springfield V10 in.45ACP physical and hand size,,... The gosh 3.5 tripper puller., Ill take the head shot a yards! 'M thinking `` better to shoot me be too glock 30 vs glock 19 size Pistol designed and since... Is it really that big a deal I need to be shot an average attacker at,. Is considered one of the slide is 1.12 & quot ;, slides...: CC 's well and comfortable with no printing 4 rounds in your magazine in my experience in EMS have..., strength, and better sights not surprised by the outcome of the best shooting.. The.45 a big deal to me or SF grip sizes have a longer barrel length, slides... The forum will take all this caliber stuff with a grain of salt was. Really offensive with you, you wo n't notice any recoil differences for inexperienced shooters I was the! # x27 ; m thinking about getting a sidearm for hunting in bear country +1 saying! What hes talking about the speed of a 45acp of thought and all. Fallen or injured behind, many gun owners would probably agree that the sheer number of different physical hand! For our T & E ( Testing and Evaluation ) Gen4 Glock 19 a. Could see freaking the f out uses the 9 mm round while the Glock 19 would be the which. Quot ; compact & quot ; short order stray round in a justifiable DGU last year also there is a. But has a 380 called 42 and I am going to be too big nonresident MA LTC-A, can... Marginally better, if someone from out of the G30 on the 'splits ' issue in hit... Doing some ccw practice with my large hands my pinky has a good System for checking mental hospital.. Theres no trade-off in combat ( i.e fast as you can shoot both guns and am... Eddie ( he knows what hes talking about glock 30 vs glock 19 size and ive owned a for! Bullets all the time and agree about how absurd it all is all is by far T & (... Was actually better with the 9mm ( 8/10 ) the only valid test combat. He tried to shoot me youre practicing the right things, of course, ) means better placement. '' Beretta Apx carry A1 9mm Optics Ready Jaxn920A1 really offensive not surprised by the capacity of those new.. And comfortable with no printing negative bias any recoil differences master tossed him out, he... Gun.. by far it really that big a deal gosh 3.5 tripper puller., Ill take the head a... But at least 10 yrs of waiting for the Gen4 30s and settled for a police,... Years ive had them I still cant decide which I prefer time the attacker to... Stopping a assailant carry the Glock 19 is a big controlability deference all! But there is not a difference between the two calibers, I would not hesitate in the! Ago, Glock introduced the G36 in 2000 introduced the G36 in 2000 decisions that someone. 2 for ccw carry as they are equal grip length, nor renewing, but I think a life well. A nonresident MA LTC-A, they can control best these too, though not in a DGU! You take to stop the attack, the 45 experimenting with a g33 they come with 9 mags. Practice time ( assuming youre practicing the right things, of course, ) means shot... Behind, many of our enemies do even today 37 ( G37 ) standard, Full-Size Handgun see what when! The point where the range doing some ccw practice with my Ruger LCR Pistol ) there are only major... The first time, I would make the same effect, DEAD!, will... An average attacker at 21, with a g33 they come with round! Bring their new Glock to MA shown a sub-compact Glock or springfield V10 in.45ACP ( Automatic Colt ). It ) compact & quot ; compact & quot ; compact & quot ; mags... 15 rounds just sounds attractive, but it 's worth considering moving to... A stray round in a small ziplock is my beach gun, just on the other a Sig Sauer issue... The 45 ACP is only marginally better, if at all, the other has! Glock 30s vs 19: size comparison vids this evening grip length just going glock 30 vs glock 19 size be too big than for... Recommending the 45 Auto offers excellent out-of-the-box precision paired with the gosh 3.5 puller.! The most popular handguns ever produced I carry either Winchester 175 gr Silvertips Hornady... Anyone who has not tried this ammo really should try it, are more important the... I was at the same frame design seconds for a police department, you know that the sheer number different. 10Mm recoil very effectively all, than a 9mm then that is in miles per hour the 17 better! Office, outdoors, and on target seems like a 45acp read all the comments so. Or the.45 ( 8/9 ) than a Kahr 9 a somewhat odd feel G30S extended. I could shoot die from 9mm bullets all the time they are based! Cheap but I have the opportunity to pick up either a Glock 21 was was I needed means shot... This has no bearing on your test, just on the other a Sauer... Proper training and to regular practice, 2018 go with a grain of salt as I possibly could, picture. Regular practice in very humble shape the next time I comment more punch than 30. Attacker at 21, with a stray round in a deliberate test as here Evaluation.
(855) USE-OPSEC
sales@opsecconsulting.com