Station 1: LEE Sizer/De-Primer (with .310 expander installed), Station 3: Hornady Lock-N-Load powder measure. Newly reformed LC brass, CCI-41 primer. Bullet profile will affect usable case capacity. 90gr are 2.110 and 100AB are 2.200 for all loads but the last where it was 2.210 due to powder compression but that load is probably too hot to be safe. David To be used in both an SKS and in a AK clone with 14.5 barrel? Ultimate Reloader is not responsible for errors in load data on this website. Not seeing a lot of data out there for subsonic loads. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - CFE BLK Subsonic Data, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrV5_m6fOhc. Considering the .300 AAC Blackout test firearm was a pistol with 10.5-inch barrel (1:10 twist) Alexander Arms Highlander Pistol accuracy results were remarkable (groups shot at 75 yards). Take manufacture's data, load test loads and go to the range to test them. Utilizing bullets as light as 110 grains and as heavy as a beastly 230 grains, it's long on versatility. Contact ultimate reloader by clicking here. Posts: 6846. Im very happy with these loads for an initial guess based on the components I used. (verified owner) December 12, 2022, Sean Cutler Cutting Edges 82-grain ER Raptor (a milled mono-copper bullet with large polymer tip); Speers 90-grain TNT (an explosive varmint HP); Hornadys 100-grain GMX (a polymer-tipped mono-copper design) and MidwayUSAs 115-grain FMJ (mirroring original military bullets) were tested for this section. There is much more data using Accurate 1680. more. Here you can see the .308 and .310 expanders next to each other. This looks promising, as does AA2200, and Shooter's World Blackout. Hornadys 125-grain SST an excellent hog bullet grouped best when pushed to a 19 grain maximum, printing .35 inch at 1,756 fps and delivering 856 foot pounds of kinetic energy. I start with .3 to .5 gr off the top load listed and test them using the same point of aim for all. What surprised me about these loads was how well they performed, and how "dialed" they were to factory ammunition. by plant.one Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:16 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. .embed-container { position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%; height: 0; overflow: hidden; max-width: 100%; height: auto; } .embed-container iframe, .embed-container object, .embed-container embed { position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; }. Find load data for Hodgdon CFE BLK propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder". To get a better handle on how well CFE BLK was operating in this round, I shot three Hornady bullets through paper with my ancient Savage 340 E with a 24-inch sporter-weight barrel (1:16 twist). Do not attempt to repair or modify any firearms based on information on this website. Great powder for 17 hornet, lead and ntx bullets all shoot well with this powder out of my savage. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Not my first order from them and definitely not my last !Great to buy from ! (verified owner) March 13, 2022, Anonymous by attila. 300AAC 8.5" 1:8 heavy BCA barrel w/suppressor. (verified owner) September 22, 2022, Jeffrey Peterman Thank you , Herr-Doktor Now if only Varget would show up. I consider a 230 grain bullet at nearly 900 fps to be a pretty stout 45 ACP load and would not hesitate to rely on this load for self defense. Garry Link I loaded a 240 grain Hornady XTP over 11.0 grains of CFE Pistol with a CCI large pistol primer in Federal brass. This fine powder meters like a dream, and leaves no copper residue, extending : 22,200 35,700 CUP Hodgdon C 35 gr V-MAX (HDY) 0.224" Powder: H110 (Hodgdon) Primer: WIN WSR Case: WIN Trim Length: 1.335" C.O.L. It was especially convenient to have all the dies for both the 44 and the 45 on the press at the same time. Good to do business with. Awesome! Thank you. Working on loads for a 17 Hornet. by GunFunZS Tue May 23, 2017 6:24 pm, Post It's a hair slower than AA1680. (verified owner) March 13, 2022, stanley t. He anticipated a similar surplus powder situation might occur after World War II. Twelve grains of Accurate 1680 beneath Hornadys 20-grain V-MAX shoots super-tight groups at factory ammunition velocities, so Ive never really been inclined to experiment further. Im still experimenting with this powder, but it has shown promise with some loads I have worked up in my .300 Blackout, and also the 7.6239. (verified owner) March 5, 2022, Anonymous (verified owner) August 25, 2022. I am pleased with the results from my 5 Smith and Wesson Model 629. I used a 230 grain Hornady XTP (jacketed hollow point) bullet, 6.8 grains of CFE Pistol and a CCI large pistol primer, in mixed brass. Concerning limitations, CFE Pistol is neither an exceptionally fast or slow burning pistol powder, so in some cartridges its not as well suited for very light loads or magnum loads calling for heavy charges of slow burning powders. It was interesting to compare the sizes and styles of the various powders. I used Hornady XTP hollow point jacketed bullets in both loads. (verified owner) September 6, 2022, David M. Tweak as necessary for YOUR rifle. It functioned flawlessly through my 1997 vintage Kimber 1911 using Chip McCormick magazines. Be the first to share your insights. Will definitely buy from Powder Valley again. Please help us to improve and report any suggestions via our contact form. CFE BLK offered a solution, proving temperature insensitive, ultraclean and developing lower chamber pressures. (verified owner) July 25, 2022, Stephen Spencer with minimal pressure signs. The .218 Bee that I had the opportunity to shoot was a 1947 vintage Winchester Model 43 Special with 24-inch sporter barrel (1:16 twist). by smustian Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:52 pm, Post Please enable JavaScript in your browser settings. From the Hodgdon CFE Pistol product page: I used a 230 grain Hornady XTP (jacketed hollow point) bullet, 6.8 grains of CFE Pistol and a CCI large pistol primer, in mixed brass. Self Proclaimed -- The largest independent 300 Blackout reloading database. When I think of close-quarters shooting with an AR-15, 300 Blackout subs are my go-to ammunition. But the only way to know for sure is to carefully approach max loads and to look for pressure signs. 28.5 grains Hodgdon CFE-BLK Powder 2.186 COL Use load data at your own risk. Always cross-reference load data with manufacturer's published data. (verified owner) January 22, 2023, Randy H. We are engineers, reloading enthusiasts and operate one of the most powerful ballistics calculators. (verified owner) January 31, 2022, MARK Much of the 7.62x39mm crate ammunition is corrosive, including some 7.62x39mm ammunition that is marked non-corrosive. This powder provides top velocities in the Fireball, combined with lower chamber pressures than favorites like Alliant Reloder 7, Accurate 1680 and Hodgdon 4198. Before I buy anywhere else I always check their inventory first, they do business right. Kevin Weiland First timer with this powder. Good velocety and acrucey. Sorry for the double post. Required fields are marked *. (verified owner) July 8, 2022. April 14, 2017 Gavin 7.62x39mm, Capital Cartridge, Hornady Lock-N-Load AP Videos, Hornady Videos, Lee Products, Lee Videos, Reloading Blog 7.62x39mm, AK-47, Capital Cartridge, Reloading Blog, Reloading Press, Reloading Videos, SKS, Ultimate Reloader. I'v stopped trying to push the edge with powders, so my data is a little on the safer side. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. My converted Remington 788, bedded in a snazzy Boyds Zombie Hunter Green Thumbhole Featherweight stock, proved pretty touchy with lighter bullets (32 to 36 grains). This powder is going to be exceptional. This allows shooters to clean their barrels less often. For this article, I used the components shown in this picture: For dies, I chose LEE Pacesetter dies (3-die set) in 7.62x39mm. Good write up. (verified owner) July 31, 2022, James Lee (verified owner) July 17, 2022, Don Moody used hornady brass and tested up to 28.5gr and brass looked good, web measurement remained unchanged, pushing 2800 FPS . (verified owner) March 24, 2023. Greg, what are your OAL measurements for these loads? With no sighs of pressure, Im confident that the hotter loads would perform well (and be safe). In this story, well take a look at the Frankford Arsenal Powder Funnel Kit which works with pretty much everything from .17 caliber on up! The AK platform is very practical, can be cost effective(in good political climates), is extremely reliable, is hard hitting, and these rifles have an epic legacy. The Hornady LNL AP I thinks he likes that one best. SIR: You Have A Small Typo Error; .handloaded 7.62x29mm cartridges; Cheers, Your email address will not be published. Then theres the issue of the oddball bullet diameter- typically .310 rather than the .308 bullet diameter used by most non-Russian 30 caliber rifles around the world. Anonymous I just got my jug of blackout in the mail and I'll have a few weeks off soon. Thanks for great service, DENNIS Follow @UReloader Lapuas 200-grain SP Mega was sent at a subsonic 1,134 fps, for just 571 foot-pounds of energy, the reason I dont recommend subsonic loads for hogs. 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Going all lake city would let me go higher, but some of the brass pancakes primers at 24.2gr. Not sure what weight you are using but I am using it in a 16" carbine length adjustable direct impinge gas system. Barnes 52-grain Match Burner combined with 18 grains of powder produced a .66-inch group. Not needed for this application (more expensive, and my AK is not a bench gun by any means)- but worked great. VEL. Reloading steel cased 7.62x39mm ammunition is not recommended: the cases arent ductile like brass is, and most steel 7.62x39mm cases are berdan primed rather than boxer primed. 2,600 FPS is nice velocity with the 100gr ABs! : 3,735 I decided to use once-fired brass, and to load on my Hornady Lock-N-Load AP 5-station progressive press. By accepting these terms, you agree that you alone are solely responsible for your own safety and property as it pertains to activities, procedures, techniques, or practices described in whole or part on this website. (verified owner) March 15, 2022, Russell Oh well. This was with the 100 gr accubond loaded at 2.217 oal. (verified owner) April 2, 2022. Poll: Where are you finding reloading primers and powder? Im thinking of a way to mark the end of each of these expanders so that I can glance down at the top of the sizer die and see which expander is installed. Super fast shipping and reasonable hazmat fees. Use load data at your own risk. (verified owner) March 11, 2023, David White Hodgdon CFE-BLK was designed to provide that level of consistency and performance in the .300 AAC Blackout cartridge, particularly when making subsonic loads . I really wished I had more to test with using other powders I have on hand to help out more but I plan to try and standardize all my loads with CFEBLK as I am seeing way more of it than I have seen lately of other powders I have used for 300blk. What surprised me about these loads was how well they performed, and how dialed they were to factory ammunition. Any of you loading CFE BLK, please post up what you are trying. The rifle came into its own with Bergers 40-grain FB Varmint, with all loads printing less than .75 inch, the best .55 and .51 inch with 18.5 and 20 grains of powder at 3,172 to 3,245 fps. So what about die stations in the Hornady Lock-N-Load AP? The Nosler bullet shot best throttled back to 3,365 fps, though juggling the seating depth on this relatively short bullet might improve accuracy with heavier charges. Accubond loads and my 110 gr. It falls right next to Winchester Auto Comp, burning faster than Alliant 2400, yet slower than Alliant Unique or Hodgdon Universal. The burn rate is very similar to Winchesters Auto Comp powder. Staying subsonic, the 11.4 gr load below grouped best at 1.5" 50 yards. Tigerologist 1 yr. ago Clay O. Clean, and meters like water making it very repeatable. lynn cox Poll: What Reloading Components Cant You Find? The company's corporate office and manufacturing facilities are located in Kansas, United States. (verified owner) November 22, 2022, larry hilliard GREGBS have you found CFE BLK to be faster or slower in burn rate than AA1680? (verified owner) February 17, 2022, Anonymous When starting a new load, always begin with the starting load data written in a recent handloading guide, or 15% under a listed maximum load if there is no starting load data provided. Hodgdon Powder Company has announced that they are acquiring multiple powder brands, including smokeless powders, and more! (verified owner) February 20, 2023, Great powder for my 7.62 x 39. Reviews can only be submitted while being logged in. 300 BLK has a "useful" case capacity of 1.65cc. also after this one very basic test (3 test loads in each gun) with no chrono data you're giving up. Heres the full press release: Press Release October 1, 2020 Hodgdon Powder Company Acquires Ramshot Powder, Accurate Powder and Blackhorn 209 from Western Powders Hodgdon Powder Company is pleased to announce the acquisition of the [], October 1, 2020 Gavin Announcements and News, Reloading Blog Accurate Powder, CFE-223, CFE-BLK, CFE-Pistol, Gunpowder, H-4350, Hodgdon Smokeless Powder, Hodgdon Varget, Ramshot Magnum, Ramshot Powder, Ramshot TAC, Reloading, Reloading Blog, Reloading Press, Reloading Videos, Ultimate Reloader, Theres no doubt: Suppressed 300 Blackout Subsonic shooting is a TON of fun! Dellet has some interesting data about the load characteristics of CFE BLK. Always cross-reference load data with manufacturer's published data. (verified owner) February 15, 2022, Anonymous Poll: Where are you finding reloading primers and powder? This includes the majority of mainstream handgun rounds including the 9mm, 38 Special, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. by GunFunZS Tue May 23, 2017 11:03 pm, Post One important note: in some cases, LEE dies dont have enough vertical travel when used in the Hornady Lock-N-Load AP press. !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=/^http:/.test(d.location)? My .17 Hornet, chambered in Savages affordable 25 Walking Varminter with a medium-weight 22-inch barrel with a 1:9 twist, is perhaps my favorite varmint rifle, so it consumes hundreds of rounds each spring. . I prefer safe loads for all my brass. Most of the blackout data is tested with a 16 inch barrel and I've found you need on average an extra grain of CFE BLK to match the published velocity when using a shorter barrel. This new spherical propellant was designed expressly for the 300 Remington AAC Never was notified it was shipped and got concerned, then it just showed up. If youre looking for a versatile powder for revolvers or semi-auto handguns, CFE Pistol certainly deserves your attention. . In this article [], March 27, 2020 Gavin Reloading Blog 300 BLK, 300 BLK Subsonic, 330 AAC Blackout, 45 ACP, 9mm parabellum, AR-10, AR-15, Berry's 220 grain 300 Blackout Spire Point, Berry's Manufacturing, Berry's Plated Bullets, CFE-BLK, H-110, Hornady Lock-n-Load AP, Reloading, Reloading Blog, Reloading Press, Reloading Subsonic Ammunition, Reloading Videos, Suppressor, Ultimate Reloader. Nosler FBSP loads. He purchased 25 tons of government surplus 4895 for $2000 and then purchased two boxcars to store it in preparation for resale at 75 cents per pound. In 1949, he began acquisition of powder salvaged from disassembled Oerlikon 20mm cannon cartridges. With the 15.5 NTX, velocity hit nearly 3,850 feet per second (fps) with a maximum load of 13 grains, though accuracy was best using 12.5 grains at 3,689 fps, which fairly matches the A-1680 and Hornady factory loads velocity-wise. Ive also enjoyed worthwhile results with CFE BLK in an older .218 Bee bolt rifle. The 45 ACP is known for working well with CFE Pistol powder while the 44 magnum is perhaps a more unusual application. Many features may not work properly without it. Dellet has some interesting data about the load characteristics of CFE BLK. Short cuts can get you seriously hurt. I'm not saying your bud or you are wrong, or it didn't happen. It provides full function in modern sporting rifles throughout a range of bullet weights and is perfect for subsonic loads. Loading 9mm on the Dillon RL 1100 with Mr. Bullet Feeder, Dillon Square Deal B: Overview and Loading 45 ACP. We compared several powders under the Wi-Fi 400x microscope. I'm saying the numbers push the limits of "easy to believe". His family initially packaged the powder for resale in the basement of their home. The shipping has always been a five star. (verified owner) August 28, 2022. Your email address will not be published. by trsmith1818 Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:39 pm, Post What are you going to test next with CFE black? GRS. Ultimate Reloader LLC / Making with Metal Disclaimer: (by reading this article and/or watching video content you accept these terms). 300 Blackout Full-Auto AR-15 Poll: What handgun cartridge do you reload most often? This spherical pistol propellant was designed for competitive shooters and handloaders seeking the perfect powder for target or self-defense loads. It shipped out the next day. You're viewing: Hodgdon Cfe Blk $ 35.99 - $ 264.99. by SwampDog_13 Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:37 pm, Post (verified owner) February 1, 2022, paul rogers (verified owner) February 16, 2023, Powder Valley has always been great. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. As mentioned, the .221 Remington Fireball is where CFE BLK truly shines. So lets get to it! CFE BLK contains our Copper Fouling Eraser ingredient, originally used in military propellant, which greatly deters copper fouling and contributes to longer periods of top accuracy with less barrel cleaning time. Super fast shipping and they had what I needed when I needed it. Between my 358 Yeti and 277 Wolverine I've determined that CFE BLK is almost identical in burn rate to Blackout. This powder resembled IMR 4350 in appearance, and with a slower burning rate, was initially marketed as "4350 Data", and later as 4831. To me, it looks like it might be a little faster burn rate since it is showing pressure signs a smidge earlier than AA1680 at the same powder charges. Its also important to look for fluctuation in SD. Fred M. (verified owner) November 4, 2022, Duane Zweep (verified owner) January 20, 2023, Anonymous (verified owner) February 18, 2022. All of my reloads have functioned 100% (the ammunition loaded for this article). TIM S. Ultimate Reloader LLC is not responsible for errors in load data on this website. Hornady Sub-X 190 gr 2.078" OAL. . (verified owner) March 3, 2022. cartridge. Backing off a grain shrank groups to .45 inch at a slower 3,792 fps. I fell into a super-accurate load right out of the gate while attempting to duplicate Hornady factory ammunition, which shot remarkably when the rifle was new and I was accumulating handloading brass. Cannelured bullets are nice if you want to apply a crimp (can aid in feeding for semi-auto rifles). My experiences involve the 6.8 Remington SPC (my nighttime thermal-imaging hog rifle) and .300 AAC Blackout (10-5-inch-tubed pistol) and very limited auditioning with a 7.62x39mm Soviet (short-barreled bolt rifle). We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. Kudos to Powder Valley! A good load will manage trade-offs between tight SD and optimal velocity. Hodgdons CFE BLK became available in January 2017, joining CFE 223 and CFE Pistol. rustypipes12 Registered Joined Apr 17, 2020 38 Posts Reason being is that data for 300 AAC Blackout using 220gr. For 7.62x39mm reloads, you can use .308 or .310 diameter bullets, but there are trade-offs for precision with .308 bullets. I started at 12g, then went down to . Poll: What handgun cartridge do you reload most often? Hodgdon CFE BLK powder - a Copper Fouling Eraser propellant - is perfect for 17 Hornet, 17 Ackley Hornet, 17 Fireball, 218 Bee and 221 Fireball handholds. As an enduring .22 Hornet fan, I glommed onto CFE BLK quickly. accuracy for longer shooting periods, and making clean-up quick and easy. Heres the load data I used: Use load data at your own risk. 300 Blackout is taking the shooting world by storm, and for good reason. My only experience pairing CFE BLK with the 7.62x39mm Soviet involved a rifle review for Wolfe Publishings Rifle magazine, shooting CZ USAs 527 American Synthetic Suppressor-Ready with 16.5-inch barrel (1:9.5 twist) and Rebel Silencers SOS Hunter suppressor installed. PV is my go-to supplier for all my reloading needs ! Anonymous I had loaded random .22 Hornet loads with CFE BLK in the past, but directed them at local Columbia ground squirrels maintaining impressive hit-to-miss ratios and not paper. Fast shipping and they dont over price, Ronald C. Silent But Deadly. Poll: What Rifle Cartridge Do You Reload Most Often? Poll: What Progressive Reloading Press Do You Use Most? Find load data for Hodgdon CFE BLK propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder".More about this powder:This sp. in the 300 Blackout, it performs beautifully in many smaller capacity cartridges, in particular, Privacy Policy. There is much more data using Accurate 1680. * All prices incl. COL is listed in the first picture. This load is near the top of Hornadys recommended loads. The best 40-grain V-MAX group measured .49 inch center-to-center, and clocked 2,453 fps. Thanks for the answer. Though Hodgdons chart above shows 12.0 grains for 44 magnum, I wanted to drop it down to 11 grains so it would be a little easier to shoot in my Smith & Wesson 629. Roy Motley Stay tuned for more 7.62x39mm content! Mcintosh, i loaded cfe blk up to 24.4 gr. This turned out to be a great setup! Gavin has loaded for many of the cartridges below. That tells me Id have no problem pushing the same velocity with subsequent souped up loads. It is truly a They have a good calculator for starting out. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I chose two big-bore handgun cartridges for CFE Pistol loading and shooting the 45 ACP and 44 magnum. http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle, https://www.google.com/search?q=110+vma ent=safari. Please paste your code into the box below: Note: Your browser does not have JavaScript enabled. Im sure of one thing: I really like loading 7.62x39mm ammunition, and I have a *lot* more testing to do. The Hodgdon Powder Company began in 1952 as B.E. (verified owner) February 1, 2022, alton swinney Its small size also makes it easy to accidentally overcharge in certain cartridges. (verified owner) March 5, 2022, John Kemp dellet. A lot of people love to collect and Shoot AK-47 style rifles, and for good reason. The 300 blackout round is prominent in hunting and personal defense You will burn more powder to get less velocity, with no real increase in accuracy. You will extend barrel life because of the low firing pressure. (verified owner) March 4, 2022, Thomas S. 'http':'https';if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src=p+'://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js';fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document, 'script', 'twitter-wjs'); 2023 Copyright 2023 Ultimate Reloader LLC. The rifle broke an inch with 15 grains of CFE BLK at just 2,689 fps beneath Sierras 45-grain Varminter SP, with its best groups resulting from 14.5 and 15 grains of powder at 2,622 to 2,704 fps when paired with Hornadys SP SX. Powder Valley has the best prices Ive found. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. $23.95 - $146.95. (verified owner) March 17, 2022, John Carey Thats why we handload, right? (verified owner) September 17, 2022, PATRICK (verified owner) February 20, 2023, George Clarke Use load data at your own risk. New customer? Farm8791026 New Member Posts:1 Joined:Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:25 pm. n the opening days of World War II, a chemist friend of Bruce E. Hodgdon was casually reminiscing about World War I. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. Still, I was always bothered by the old pistol powders dirty nature and tendency to show pressure increases under a hot sun, occasionally requiring a ramrod to remove stuck cases. The content on this website (including videos, articles, ammunition reloading data, technical articles, gunsmithing and other information) is for demonstration purposes only. (verified owner) November 26, 2022, very accurate in my wilson combat 300HamR, Daniel Purdy Purdy Hodgdon CFE Pistol is best suited for cartridges producing the middle range of power (non-magnum pistol loads in most calibers including 500 S&W). 27.7 gr of CFE 223 sounds like a peppy load, 27.7 gr of CFE BLK sounds like a damaged gun. Please enter your login details below. Poll: Whats your number one reason for reloading? Not seeing a lot of data out there for subsonic loads. I buy them in bulk for my 308 ARs and M1A, so was hoping I could make a "good enough" cheap super load for 300, but it kinda sucks. Loading 300 no. Not the best idea, but adequate. If your URL is correct, you'll see an image preview here. CFE (Copper Fouling Eraser), is an additive that significantly reduces copper fouling in rifle and pistol barrels. It functioned flawlessly through my 1997 vintage Kimber 1911 using Chip McCormick magazines. : 33,900 37,400 CUP Hodgdon Hornady and Nostler websites have been a gold mine for me. (verified owner) April 4, 2022, Never tried it but now is the time to try new powders, In these trying times, there is a glimmer of hope with Powder Valley. These subsonic 300 Blackout loads require 30 caliber bullets in the 190-250 grain range which can get real expensive real quick! You nailed it I am not happy with it at all. Certain powders seem custom made for specific cartridges and CFE BLK is the magic dust for the .221 Remington Fireball. I chose two big-bore handgun cartridges for CFE Pistol loading and shooting the 45 ACP and 44 magnum. This is very small for an extruded powder. I'm new to loading this round as I just got my last couple tax stamps back last week. Use load data at your own risk. (verified owner) June 4, 2022, Anonymous Fast Facts About 300 Blackout Required fields are marked *. : 1.715" Powder: 12.1 gr 13.2 gr Vel. (verified owner) April 23, 2022, Edgar M. This is precisely what subsonic 300BLK requires (for me, 10.0 grains under a 235-grain projectile yields 1000 FPS out of a shorter barrel). . *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. CFE Pistol was introduced in 2014. It provides full function of AR type rifles throughout the range of bullet I havent used this powder. (verified owner) March 26, 2022, Thomas M. Anthony That load is worth mentioning as a stand-alone because it proved the most accurate of all loads, factory and handloads, tested in that rifle. CFE 223 is a moderate rifle powder, while CFE BLK is close to the magnum pistol powders. CFE Pistol contains our Copper Fouling Eraser ingredient, originally used in military propellant, which greatly deters copper fouling and contributes to longer periods of top accuracy with less barrel cleaning time. For more information go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov. 37 F. by STINKEY Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:05 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, I really hope no one says something like a simple SEARCH of the powder name would result in a multi-page thread of testing and observations. Matthew Dunlap From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. With the 20-grain slug, a maximum load of 17 grains hit 4,091 fps while printing .50 inch. Burn rate to Blackout ARCHIVED THREAD ] - CFE BLK over 11.0 grains of powder produced.66-inch... Making with Metal Disclaimer: ( by reading this article ) save my name, email, and good. 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